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		<title>By: Benoas</title>
		<link>http://news.whoviannet.co.uk/2009/04/discussion-knock-knock-whos-there/comment-page-2/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>Benoas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He will Knock FOUR times
The waters of mars  (next episod)
Mars FOURTH planet from the sun!!</description>
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The waters of mars  (next episod)<br />
Mars FOURTH planet from the sun!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Meri, i watched Midnigth again and knoks there and in Water of Mars trailer sounds a bit familiar, i think it will be Sky Sylvestry.=)</description>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could be Ood Sigma who knocks, he has after all been seen filming for Waters of Mars and appeared in ComiCon&#039;s &quot;End of Time&quot; trailer. I&#039;d rather it wasn&#039;t Gallifrey to be honest, the Time Lords annoyed me somewhat. And as much as I ADORE Daleks, I hope they&#039;re either not in it or their involvement is strictly limited</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could be Ood Sigma who knocks, he has after all been seen filming for Waters of Mars and appeared in ComiCon&#8217;s &#8220;End of Time&#8221; trailer. I&#8217;d rather it wasn&#8217;t Gallifrey to be honest, the Time Lords annoyed me somewhat. And as much as I ADORE Daleks, I hope they&#8217;re either not in it or their involvement is strictly limited</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its the timelords ,the master heard not made the knocking sound , the timelords will return to punish the doctor for his genocide crimes {popped up many times in series} ,the judoon also want to arrest him {in journeys end} ,the dr may be forced to regenerate or it maybe a complete whole circle where the dr returns to the timewar and has to choose again thus making him darker still</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its the timelords ,the master heard not made the knocking sound , the timelords will return to punish the doctor for his genocide crimes {popped up many times in series} ,the judoon also want to arrest him {in journeys end} ,the dr may be forced to regenerate or it maybe a complete whole circle where the dr returns to the timewar and has to choose again thus making him darker still</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering about the regeneration limit.  I recently rewatched &quot;The Five Doctors.&quot;  In that, the Timelords offered the Master regeneration &quot;an entirely new life cycle&quot;.  Unsure if this was just one more time, or a full run of 13 bodies.  At that time, the Master was past his original regens, and had stolen the body from Traken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering about the regeneration limit.  I recently rewatched &#8220;The Five Doctors.&#8221;  In that, the Timelords offered the Master regeneration &#8220;an entirely new life cycle&#8221;.  Unsure if this was just one more time, or a full run of 13 bodies.  At that time, the Master was past his original regens, and had stolen the body from Traken.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the master dosent return god knows whats returning or who wiil knock(4 times)  the only thing we know for sure is that its a he and hes possibley been in doctor who before P.S it would be cool if it was The Beast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the master dosent return god knows whats returning or who wiil knock(4 times)  the only thing we know for sure is that its a he and hes possibley been in doctor who before P.S it would be cool if it was The Beast!</p>
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		<title>By: TSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-311&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-311&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mass &lt;/a&gt;
We could theorise that the regeneration limit has been lifted somehow, but where would the suspense be when #13 is coming to an end? Wouldnt you want to see how he continues on instead of thinking it’ll all be fine?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re right. But I also want to torment myself wondering how on earth it will happen!</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-311" rel="nofollow">Mass </a><br />
We could theorise that the regeneration limit has been lifted somehow, but where would the suspense be when #13 is coming to an end? Wouldnt you want to see how he continues on instead of thinking it’ll all be fine?</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right. But I also want to torment myself wondering how on earth it will happen!</p>
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		<title>By: Mass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-309&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-309&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TSG &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;do we go back to the Doctor being controversially half human&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We dont talk about that lol

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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-310&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TE &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;There’s a good rumour going about that the Time Lords removed the rule during the Time War&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not so much of a rule, more something that is in their DNA (part of the Rassilon Impirature), although, technically I suppose you could use a chameleon arch in order to rewrite your DNA and become a &quot;pure&quot; Time Lord, with unlimted regenerations...

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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-309&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TSG &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;What happens after #13? The Time Lords were only supposed to have thirteen bodies, or was that thirteen regenerations, in which case what happens after #14? Do we claim that it was a Time Lord rule which set the number, and the Doctor will somehow escape that (possibly because there are no Time Lords, despite our theorising)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It has been stated that a Time Lord has 13 lives (or 12 regenerations). The Master in his first appearance (as the late, great Roger Delgado) was on his 13th life. Not too sure what happened, but after Delgado died in real life the Master continued in the show as a rotting, malformed creature, something of a walking corpse, desperately clinging onto existance. He then somehow transferred his essence into a Trakenite called Tremas, and had a living body again. The Tremas Master (played brilliantly by the late Anthony Ainley) continued with the show until its cancellation.

The Master reappeared in the 1996 TV Movie (presumably in the Tremas form) and put on trial by the Daleks on Skaro (placing it before the events of Rememberance of the Daleks, yet after Survival for the 7th Doctor). The Master was exterminated and his essence was to be returned to Gallifrey. The Master&#039;s essence escaped its containment, brought the TARDIS to Earth on December 30th 1999 and then inhabited the body of an EMT named Bruce...

So while a Time Lord is limited to 13 lives, they are not limited to that lifespan, although this being the Master, i&#039;d wager it&#039;s not acceptable in Time Lord society!

We could theorise that the regeneration limit has been lifted somehow, but where would the suspense be when #13 is coming to an end? Wouldnt you want to see how he continues on instead of thinking it&#039;ll all be fine?

As Russell T Davies has said &quot;He&#039;ll probably find a Crystal Ball of Zog&quot;. So there will always be a way around it, it&#039;s discovering that way that is exciting.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-309" rel="nofollow">TSG </a> :</strong>do we go back to the Doctor being controversially half human</p></blockquote>
<p>We dont talk about that lol</p>
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<strong><a href="#comment-310" rel="nofollow">TE </a> :</strong>There’s a good rumour going about that the Time Lords removed the rule during the Time War</p></blockquote>
<p>Not so much of a rule, more something that is in their DNA (part of the Rassilon Impirature), although, technically I suppose you could use a chameleon arch in order to rewrite your DNA and become a &#8220;pure&#8221; Time Lord, with unlimted regenerations&#8230;</p>
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<strong><a href="#comment-309" rel="nofollow">TSG </a> :</strong>What happens after #13? The Time Lords were only supposed to have thirteen bodies, or was that thirteen regenerations, in which case what happens after #14? Do we claim that it was a Time Lord rule which set the number, and the Doctor will somehow escape that (possibly because there are no Time Lords, despite our theorising)?</p></blockquote>
<p>It has been stated that a Time Lord has 13 lives (or 12 regenerations). The Master in his first appearance (as the late, great Roger Delgado) was on his 13th life. Not too sure what happened, but after Delgado died in real life the Master continued in the show as a rotting, malformed creature, something of a walking corpse, desperately clinging onto existance. He then somehow transferred his essence into a Trakenite called Tremas, and had a living body again. The Tremas Master (played brilliantly by the late Anthony Ainley) continued with the show until its cancellation.</p>
<p>The Master reappeared in the 1996 TV Movie (presumably in the Tremas form) and put on trial by the Daleks on Skaro (placing it before the events of Rememberance of the Daleks, yet after Survival for the 7th Doctor). The Master was exterminated and his essence was to be returned to Gallifrey. The Master&#8217;s essence escaped its containment, brought the TARDIS to Earth on December 30th 1999 and then inhabited the body of an EMT named Bruce&#8230;</p>
<p>So while a Time Lord is limited to 13 lives, they are not limited to that lifespan, although this being the Master, i&#8217;d wager it&#8217;s not acceptable in Time Lord society!</p>
<p>We could theorise that the regeneration limit has been lifted somehow, but where would the suspense be when #13 is coming to an end? Wouldnt you want to see how he continues on instead of thinking it&#8217;ll all be fine?</p>
<p>As Russell T Davies has said &#8220;He&#8217;ll probably find a Crystal Ball of Zog&#8221;. So there will always be a way around it, it&#8217;s discovering that way that is exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: TE</title>
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		<dc:creator>TE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a good rumour going about that the Time Lords removed the rule during the Time War, so they could continue fighting the Daleks (guess they didn&#039;t visualise the threat the Daleks would be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a good rumour going about that the Time Lords removed the rule during the Time War, so they could continue fighting the Daleks (guess they didn&#8217;t visualise the threat the Daleks would be).</p>
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		<title>By: TSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens after #13? The Time Lords were only supposed to have thirteen bodies, or was that thirteen regenerations, in which case what happens after #14? Do we claim that it was a Time Lord rule which set the number, and the Doctor will somehow escape that (possibly because there are no Time Lords, despite our theorising)? Or do we go back to the Doctor being controversially half human and cite the innate human desire to survive? Or what? We&#039;re running out of time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens after #13? The Time Lords were only supposed to have thirteen bodies, or was that thirteen regenerations, in which case what happens after #14? Do we claim that it was a Time Lord rule which set the number, and the Doctor will somehow escape that (possibly because there are no Time Lords, despite our theorising)? Or do we go back to the Doctor being controversially half human and cite the innate human desire to survive? Or what? We&#8217;re running out of time&#8230;</p>
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