Rate & Discuss: Deep Breath

August 23rd, 2014
Warning! This article and its comments may contain spoilers...

When the Doctor arrives in Victorian London, he finds a dinosaur rampant in the Thames and a spate of deadly spontaneous combustions. Who is the new Doctor and will Clara’s friendship survive as they embark on a terrifying mission into the heart of an alien conspiracy? The Doctor has changed. It’s time you knew him.

It only feels like yesterday that Whovians around the world were gathered for the reveal of Peter Capaldi as the Twelfth Doctor, and in true Doctor Who fashion, time really has flown because his first full-length adventure has just premiered on our screens. Aaaand breathe…

When Matt Smith handed over his keys to the TARDIS last Christmas, we were left with unanswered questions about memory less and kidneys as the TARDIS braced itself for a crash landing. Today we discovered that it ended up in Victorian London (of all places!), where there just so happened to be a dinosaur running rampant in the Thames and a spate of deadly spontaneous combustions – just another day in the office for our Time Lord then!

There was to be no rest for the wicked as the Doctor found himself caught up in the middle of an alien conspiracy (we know, that’s so unlike him…), but luckily he had his best friend Clara Oswald to lend a helping hand. While the impossible girl tried to get to grips with the new Doctor, Madame Vastra, Jenny Flint and Strax also returned to aid our heroes as a half-faced terror hid in the shadows. So what did you make of the feature-length premiere?

It was out with the old and in with the new and if you’re looking for somewhere to spill all your thoughts and feelings, you’ve come to the right place! Head to the comments below to discuss tonight’s episode and keep refreshing to stay on top of the conversation. There’s lots to be said about Deep Breathe and only one place to say it… So happy discussing folks!

NOTE: This discussion will NOT be spoiler monitored so please do not read the comments if you haven’t seen Deep Breath. You have been warned!

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38 comments on this article
  1. Michelle Jones
    August 23rd, 2014 at 9.14pm | #1

    Love the new doctor, great plot, loads of humour, it had a real Steampunk feel too! Roll on next Saturday…

  2. Anjali
    August 23rd, 2014 at 9.21pm | #2

    The 12th Doctors debute episode was to be honest rubbish. There was hardly a plot. The villain of the episode was completely un explained. There was hardly any action. The best bit was when Clara spoke to the 11th Doctor on the phone.

    The 12th doctor seems alright.

  3. Gloster1861
    August 23rd, 2014 at 9.27pm | #3

    Well, Peter Capaldi is always a great screen presence and will bring depth to the role.
    This story though, was pants from beginning to end, saturated in Moffatt’s unbearable political correctness. Shoving lesbian double meanings down our throats, plus a diatribe about rascism. Surprised the baddies were not UKIP in this episode.
    Moffat has dropped the ball. Please bring back Russell T Davies.

  4. JC
    August 23rd, 2014 at 9.30pm | #4

    There’ll always divided opinions about Doctor Who. God knows I’ve had my problems with Steven Moffat, but I hope those who want to comment here won’t be put off by the range of opinions. Everyone’s are valid.

    My opinion is that, by the end of his first episode, Peter Capaldi was the Doctor. Throughout, he was as amazing as I knew he would be since his announcement.

    There was a fierceness, but there was also a vulnerability. A carelessness but also the in-built caring of the Doctor. A darkness amongst that familiar light.

    I had heard rumours that Matt Smith was going to be in this episode and that didn’t spoil the moment. Instead, I was waiting for it and both Doctors didn’t disappoint. It was a beautiful way for the 11th Doctor to hand over to the 12th, not just for Clara but for the audience as well. It reminded me of Peter’s words to a young fan when he said that Matt had given him permission to be the Doctor.

    It sounds ridiculous, but this is the first time I’ve felt emotional at the end of the first episode of a Doctor. It’s rare that I feel emotional about Doctor Who at all, but I instinctively connected with Peter Capaldi as the Doctor.

    Like Clara, I could see he was still in there and enjoyed discovering who he was as he did.

    I like that he recognised that he does look like Caecilius, even if he can’t remember that. I liked the reference to the 4th Doctor’s scarf and how the 12th Doctor thought it was stupid. I liked how I picked up on the references to The Girl In The Fireplace really early on and I liked how the 12th Doctor mentioned Amy Pond. I liked that the 12th Doctor actually walked off and left Clara on her own, locking her in the room to face whatever may happen to her, was so different and interesting.

    Jenna Coleman was as good as ever. You could see the difficulty she was having with everything and almost like the Doctor himself, she felt like she was the same person but the Doctor regenerating has also made her different.

    Strax was as comical as ever, even though that’s never his intent, and it was good to see Vastra and Jenny again. The Blue Peter Sonic Devices were very subtle, but I’m not sure if they were too subtle. I only recognised them because I knew which shape the devices were going to be.

    I’m going to want to see it again. Like all of us, I like to watch it again just to make sure I’ve gotten everything. I doubt this comment says everything I want to either, but if so, I’ll be back to carry on.

    In summary, Peter has said on a couple of occasions that loads of people may hate him as the Doctor, but there’ll be a few who will love him and that’s what’s important to him.

    Well, it’s very early days, only the first episode, but on this performance, I’ve joined the ranks of those that love the 12th Doctor. You are the Doctor.

  5. Joshrr
    August 23rd, 2014 at 10.02pm | #5

    Deep Breath is one of the best Season Premieres in the shows history!
    Peter brings a New/Exciting/Scary take on our beloved Time Lord!
    This Doctor gets in touch with the Darkness within him, something the other Doctor’s only scratched the surface of.
    As my mother kept saying, “this is a scary Doctor” and I partially agree with her but I see this as a good thing. The Doctor has had many incarnations, not all of them can be somebody you want to be mates with. But we can still see this Doctor has a sense of justice and other positive qualities that make us love the Doctor. Plus some of his dialogue were funny (I laughed very hard when he flirted with a Dinosaur and when he chose to go out of a window instead of a Door)
    As for the story itself I enjoyed. The robot’s are a great idea and scary. I’ll admit there were some moments that were pointless, such as when Strax scanned Clara or when Vastra gave extra breath to Jenny. But still some great moments, the best being near the end where the Doctor talks the half-faced man into suicide.
    There is so much I want to talk about but I doubt anyone reading this wants to know my every opinion. Maybe I’ll post another review later. But for now, I hope people can understand my opinion on this great episode!

  6. Maisie Moore
    August 23rd, 2014 at 10.28pm | #6

    This was like watching tome travelling paint dry, without the time travelling. The effects have got to be a joke. There was no poot to this episode. Thoroughly disappointed, I was looking forward to Calpadi portraying the doctor.

  7. pete
    August 23rd, 2014 at 10.46pm | #7

    This first Capaldi episode for me showed the personality change that each regeneration goes through and just how hard it can be. It takes time for each regeneration to acclimatise…just some more than others! Capaldi for me has nailed it, long live jelly babies! Lol

  8. Nina Di Leo
    August 23rd, 2014 at 11.02pm | #8

    I am very glad about how this part of series will go.Capaldi really made it special in a bright new way.The robots idea is amazing, and very intriguing. Great job.Hardly wait to see the rest.

  9. Gregory
    August 24th, 2014 at 5.15am | #9

    I loved the episode, and I had a Theory on who Missy is. what if, somehow, she is the personification of the doctors misery, it could explain her nickname being Missy, plus we all know Misery loves the Doctors company. just a weird theory, I am sure it won’t be this, but I wanted to share.

  10. joshua
    August 24th, 2014 at 9.45am | #10

    Honestly awful, and yes i did jump on the train around the 8-9th doctor, all i can say is that it has lost a lot of younger generation fans,

  11. Steve
    August 24th, 2014 at 10.04am | #11

    Boring, unoriginal and tedious. There were only 2 brilliant things about this show – firstly – Strax throwing a newspaper at Clara and knocking her over. There was a roar of excitement at that! The second was Peter C. Besides that, this was a poor opening story in the entire history of Doctor Who. Even Twin Dilemma is better. A rehash of old stories – The Girl In The Fireplace and to a lesser degree The Christmas Invasion, which had a very similar ending! Steven Moffatt was a great writer under RTD but he is a poor head writer on his own. His stories continue to decline.

  12. Shanice Loarca
    August 24th, 2014 at 10.17am | #12

    I loved the pudding head bit. I was not expecting this episode to make me cry but when 11 came back up I just sobbed forever. Beautiful transitioning feelings and not to mention a killer sound track ! :D cant wait for the next episode. I love CAPALDI!

  13. Jessica-WhovianNetter
    August 24th, 2014 at 11.12am | #13

    While I was not absolutely thrilled with the plot of “Deep Breath,” I was and am so excited for our new Doctor (Peter Capaldi). I strongly feel and believe that the 12th Doctor will become one of the fan favorites in the episodes to come. Capaldi has a certain presence and personality that we have not quite seen in the more recent Docs, and I am just beaming with excitement to see all that unfolds throughout series 8!

  14. JC
    August 24th, 2014 at 11.32am | #14

    Well, I’ve had the night to think about it and I still maintain that Peter Capaldi did an amazing job.

    It always amazes me too, though, how some people who didn’t like it attack the people who did. It’s interesting, in a bad way, how quickly the words “fanboys” and “fangirls” are banded around immediately after the episode. It’s really ugly, so it’s good those who didn’t like it here are expressing their opinion without getting personal. Hopefully that’ll continue to be the case.

    I have thought of something else that has been a little irritating to me. I’m kind of bored of Moffat’s Victorian era stories. I understand that’s where the Paternoster Gang are based and so to have them in the show, you have to keep going back to Victorian times, but still.

    When he took over, he seemed to clear out the relics of the RTD Victorican era too. Firstly, he got rid of the CyberKing attack by saying it had got sucked into the cracks in the universe and everyone had forgotten it.

    Secondly, every trip to Victorian times now takes place between 1837 and 1879. Fair enough, perhaps, because that’s a long time for lots of things to happen within. My problem is that it also completely and perfectly avoids Torchwood.

    Every time there’s a Victorian episode, I’m a bit irritated that Torchwood are avoided. Vastra and Strax walk around without any worries and even in his confusion, when he mentioned different things from his lives, the 12th Doctor never worried about Torchwood getting involved.

    It is a very small thing though and something perhaps only I’m bothered by, it’d just be interesting to see Strax, Vastra and the Doctor having to avoid Torchwood.

  15. Gemma Hill
    August 24th, 2014 at 3.55pm | #15

    I thought this episode was truly amazing and so well written and the twelfth Doctor, Peter Capaldi, was introduced brilliantly. The Doctor has truly changed and I am not sure what to think about his new personality. My main issue is when he commits murder towards the end of the episode. In my opinion, murder never solves murder, and I thought this was every incarnation of the Doctor’s opinion as well. I have also heard that there is a lot of controversy about Madam Vastra and Jenny’s “kiss” and how it is inappropriate to show on a children’s program and is practically porn. They are also saying that Stephan Moffat is some sort of lizard-lesbian perv. I have a very strong opinion on these homophobic statements and, firstly, it was essential to save Jenny’s life (Vastra shared her oxygen with Jenny) and wasn’t technically a kiss. Secondly, they are married and everyone knows they are lovers. Thirdly, it lasted a meagre three seconds and wasn’t anything sexual. And lastly, however MOST importantly, so what if they are lesbians? I don’t see anyone complaining at the countless times Captain Jack Harkness kissed people (and aliens for that matter), or when Rose was possessed by Cassandra and made out with Ten, or when Amy tried to have sex with Eleven, or when Eleven kissed Rory, or when Captain Jack kissed Ten, or when Amy posed as a kiss-o-gram in Eleven’s first episode there is an endless list.

  16. JC
    August 24th, 2014 at 4.26pm | #16

    @Gemma Hill
    I actually complained about Amy coming on to the 11th Doctor and the fact she was a kissogram on here, because I was genuinely uncomfortable about it. Not because I’m a prude or anything, I just didn’t feel right about it personally.

    Having said that, Vastra and Jenny’s kiss last night just went over my head, I didn’t really think anything about it. I also love the character of Jack Harkness and accepted his relationship with Ianto.

    I think the thing with same sex relationships, whatever show they’re part of, is that they need to be treated as normal. If you excessively focus on them or constantly point things out about these relationships, it makes it feel like you’re trying to highlight their relationship.

  17. Mark
    August 24th, 2014 at 5.15pm | #17

    I must admit that the beginning of the show was iffy. This seemingly brain damaged doctor was unsettling, kind of scary in a ” what are they doing with this?” Sense. But slowly, as the story moved along, we saw the old Doctor starting to shine through. By the restaurant, we were fully engaged, and loving every minute of it.

    I did love Clara’s character development ( although I still do and probably always will miss Amy Pond) and as usual loved the Paternoster gang one and all. I also loved the fact that the end of the robot leader was left unclear. In fact, so,unclear that you have two comments above who each thought that opposite outcomes had taken place. Perfect! Is this new Doctor the type that would kill to save hid beloved ‘pudding heads’? Or was he the type whose arguments could convince the leader to kill himself? We’ll have to watch and see.

    I’m curious that nobody has mentioned the clear anti religious stance of the episode. DW has a number of times shown this in various episodes, but I felt that this was one of the most blatant. I’m actually a little surprised that this got past the BBC censors. Lesbian relationships? Even inter species lesbian relationships? No problem, seen those before. But a creature seeking “the promised land” dies impaled on a cross? Even better!

    Carry on, can’t wait for the next episode.

  18. Gemma Hill
    August 24th, 2014 at 5.39pm | #18

    I also thought the whole Amy and Eleven thing was a bit out of order, and I’m not saying I don’t agree with Jack’s realtionship with Ianto. In fact quite the opposite, I think it’s great that Doctor Who is accepting same sex relationships however I don’t understand why the critics accept Jack’s homosexual relationship and not Vastra and Jenny’s

  19. John
    August 24th, 2014 at 5.55pm | #19

    Finally, a Doctor that doesn’t have an English accent.
    Don’ get me wrong, I’m not anti-english, but just as this planet has many regional accents, so does Gallifrey.

    The new intro sucks big time. I started watching the Doctor back in the 60’s and this is the worst intro I’ve ever seen,

    The episode was a re-hash. Nothing really new “been there, done that”

    Having said that, the appearance of 11 was a stroke of genius. It was the perfect way of transferring Clara’s empathy/caring/sassiness from one Doctor to another.

    I look forward to finding out exactly who the woman at the end was.

    Altogether, I’d rate this as a 7/10

  20. Herby
    August 24th, 2014 at 6.24pm | #20

    “Don’t look in the mirror, it’s furious”. Everything about this episode was spot on brilliant. And Peter the Great IS the Doctor. The titles were rubbish, but that is the only thing I didn’t like. 9 out of 10

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