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Discussion: The Waters of Mars

November 15th, 2009

wom-discussion-imageThe waiting is finally over - and about time too! After suffering painful withdrawal symptoms since April, the latest Doctor Who special, The Waters of Mars, has just had its official debut on BBC1 and BBC HD. And what a special it was!

The long-awaited adventure, which has been built up to with months of tantalizing teasers, press screenings and cast interviews, saw the Doctor arriving on Mars, but the head of Bowie Base One, Captain Adelaide Brooke, was far from impressed by his uninvited appearance. They soon found themselves under attack from a deadly water-based threat, and the Time Lord encountered troubles much closer to home…

The staff here at WhovianNet have been hard at work these past few weeks bringing you all the latest information you need, but we’re not quite finished yet! We now bring you our live discussion for tonight’s episode, and we’ll soon be updating all of our content over at the main site, too!

In the meantime, though, feel free to let us and other visitors know what you thought of the Tenth Doctor’s spectacular return to our small screens by leaving your reactions as a comment on this post - the perfect way for you to share in the journey with your fellow fans! 

Did his penultimate adventure whisk you away on a tidal wave of emotions, or was the tale of the Red Planet a bore? Whether you loved it or loathed it, we want to know (both sobs and squees permitted!), so what are you waiting for!?

As always, please avoid the comments if you haven’t seen the episode yet. It’ll be up on the BBC iPlayer shortly, and it’s also repeated this coming Wednesday 18th November at 8:00PM on BBC3! For fans across the pond in countries that are still waiting for the episode, feel free to head back here following your relevant airdates and share your thoughts as well! Oh, and don’t forget to keep refreshing this page to view the very latest comments!

Check back in with us tomorrow (Monday) for overnight ratings!

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  1. Steve
    November 15th, 2009 at 20:02 | #1

    Mixed oppinons.
    The ads looked better!
    I liked the graphics, but the microphones really needed to be turnt up! Seriously, could not hear some of the vocals due to the loud music.
    The ending was quite strange, the Ood? Hmmmm, I wonder what it could all meen…

  2. Dean
    November 15th, 2009 at 20:07 | #2

    I really, really enjoyed this episode.
    All the way through i had a strange feeling in my stomach and the scenes built up tension very well. I thought that it wasn’t the scariest episode, but it was very thrilling. And the “NEXT TIME” was extremely epic. I mean, the masters back, donnas back. hmmm epic finale and send off of David Tennants doctor.I cannot wait until Christmas day!

  3. Dean
    November 15th, 2009 at 20:14 | #3

    the master is back mwahahaha

  4. November 15th, 2009 at 20:21 | #4

    Brilliant, epic, fantastic, emotional… Just sensational. The hour flew by and there were some amazing moments. The Dalek bit was genius and really chilling, and the bit with the Ood was strange but a bit scary… Also the Doctor seems to be turning darker… perhaps he’s afraid of dying. He was so scared when the Ood turned up…

    But yeah. Top stuff.

  5. November 15th, 2009 at 20:42 | #5

    That was by far the best episode, just 40 days till christmas. The last 5 mins of the episode was brilliant, he now defintly knows he nearing his end and a possible regeneration is nearing. The dalek part was very well thought of and that it knew she was fixed. Now I can’t wait to see all the companions, Rose, Jack, Donna, Martha, Sarah-Jane all at the doctor’s last moment. Also in the trailer i saw that the master morphed from himself to what i thought was his 13th incarnation. The next two specials are going to be brilliant.

  6. Steve
    November 15th, 2009 at 20:46 | #6

    Ohh I forgot to mention, like The-oncomingstorm said, The Doctor was a lot deeper and darker than ever before! good stuff :D

  7. November 15th, 2009 at 20:50 | #7

    Doctor Who-do-you-think-you-are? near the end. Power corrupts, and ultimate power is pretty hard to resist, even for the doctor. Interesting to know that despite his attempts to change the course of history, he managed to change just one word (Mars to Earth).

    Noticed all the flaming bits and pieces after that explosion? Didn’t know Mars had an oxygenated atmosphere…

  8. Chris
    November 15th, 2009 at 21:46 | #8

    The best Doctor Who episode in a long while. The deaths of Steffi and Adelaide were very well written and the Doctor’s crossing the line was unexpected.

    But THE MASTER IS BACK!!!!!

  9. November 15th, 2009 at 22:08 | #9

    I thought that episode was just amazing! It just had everything! Scary water zombies, a funny robot, and a new side of The Doctor that we have never seen (and I might say that at the end we he totally changed and was arrogant and scared, he was more frightning than the monsters!) The little clip of the Dalek was a great touch, and I just thought it was so sad when despite all his efforts his companion made the decision herself. And what tops it all off is the wonderful preview we were given of the xmas episode! What can I say? It was all just gorgeous! :)

  10. lisa
    November 15th, 2009 at 22:12 | #10

    Great episode and Davids performance was fantasically dark and ever so slightly menacing,just for a moment there i didnt like him until ood sigma turned up and pricked his concsience-perhaps it will be along the lines of a christmas carol with a few ghosts cropping up…..mmmm perhaps not
    Brilliant as ever roll on christmas day.

  11. November 15th, 2009 at 22:15 | #11

    I too mixed feelings about this episode. Again, like Planet of The Dead, it didn’t feel especially special to me throughout, feeling more like an episode you’d see in the middle of a Season.

    That’s not to say it was a bad episode, just nothing…….mind-blowing, shall we say.

    Saying that, I enjoyed the episode fine enough and if there was one thing I thought was special, it was at the end. What with the Doctor losing the plot a bit, probably to do with the fear of his end, and then the Captain taking her own life to somewhat repair the time line, I have to admit those were two new things that I thought were good.

    So yeah, while it was a good Doctor Who episode, it wasn’t a Doctor Who Special……….I think for that, we’re gonna have to wait for Christmas

  12. November 15th, 2009 at 22:19 | #12

    Sorry for the second post, but I had to mention something else, the inclusion of the Dalek and reference back to the end of Season 4 was amazing, to see a Dalek actually turn away from someone and spare their life, that was special………..so yes, special moments, not-so-special episode in my own opinion, but good enough

  13. Steve
    November 15th, 2009 at 22:27 | #13

    Every human dies - so if the Dalek spared Adalaid as they knew she was supposed to die on Mars, then how comes they kill everyone else, even know they would know how that person would die in the future?

  14. pirko
    November 15th, 2009 at 22:31 | #14

    A fantastic episode! I was very impressed with how dark and complex it actually was.I was moved by how the doctor walked away while the others were dying on the base. The end doctor scared the hell out of me when he became a more cocky “I am THE timelord” doctor and it was great how adelaide pulled him up about it. I thought it was a really good turn for the doctor and now it adds to his ending.

    Very very brave decision to have adelaide kill herself to preserve history. Most likely some will like it, some will find it controversial but it worked for the story by making the doctor realise just how powermad he can be.

    The trailer was fantastic! it was good to get a brand new trailer and not the one from the comic con (although some clips were the same)I cannot wait for xmas! Only critique I have for the episode though was there were no gags really, which i missed. and the tribute before the trailer was rushed and should have been held off until after the credits.

    Roll on xmas!!!!!

  15. November 15th, 2009 at 22:36 | #15

    Perhaps it was what they said in the episode, about Adelaide’s death being key to the time line. Perhaps even the Dalek’s respect fixed moments in time that must happen and what they see in the rest of humanity’s futures is irrelevancy and unimportance, so they exterminate.

    Steve :
    Every human dies - so if the Dalek spared Adalaid as they knew she was supposed to die on Mars, then how comes they kill everyone else, even know they would know how that person would die in the future?

    Perhaps it was what they said in the episode, about Adelaide’s death being key to the time line. Perhaps even the Dalek’s respect fixed moments in time that must happen and what they see in the rest of humanity’s futures is irrelevancy and unimportance, so they exterminate

  16. November 15th, 2009 at 23:03 | #16

    Terrifying.

  17. Bridget
    November 16th, 2009 at 02:23 | #17

    WOW!!! Just WOW !!! If this doesn’t cement David Tennant’s Status as one of the best actors on Television nothing will … I actually feel sick after watching it, which I think is the purpose … that sense of dread …. WOW !!!

  18. Steven
    November 16th, 2009 at 02:29 | #18

    @Dean
    The finale isn’t Christmas, it’s NEW YEARS! :(

  19. Jamie
    November 16th, 2009 at 07:58 | #19

    I’m still in shock at the pure brilliance. Excellent performances all round, but hats off to David Tennant for not only bringing something new to The Doctor; but for being able to scare me, a long time viewer, in revealing a whole new side to The Doctor. I think that for the children viewing, they’d be frightened by the concept of The Doctor walking away; I think that this episode is truly The Doctor’s darkest hour: now just the long wait until Christmas. 10/10

  20. November 16th, 2009 at 12:58 | #20

    Amazing episode, much better than I thought it would be. Complex, dark and great performances by David and Lindsay.

    Some amazing scenes, especially the one when The Dcotor was in the airlock. Utterly compelling.

    Just heard that overnight ratings were 9.1m - a great figure, higher than POTD.

  21. pirko
    November 16th, 2009 at 13:09 | #21

    @steven.

    good point! i forgot that we wont see the actual regeneration until new years day most likely. personally i wish they would have part one on christmas day and the conclusion on boxing day, so theres not much of a wait :(

  22. Sam
    November 16th, 2009 at 13:18 | #22

    Certainly worth waiting seven months,one of the best episodes in a long time. The Doctor’s dark side was definetley something we have not seen before and the appearence of Ood Sigma was chilling in some way. The Dalek appearence was well thought of and the preview for the End of Time looks fantastic. Bring on Christmas! :)

  23. Sean
    November 16th, 2009 at 16:19 | #23

    A great episode, liked the way that they used SJA actor Chook Sibtain (Mr. Grantham from Warriors of Kudlak). Great ratings for the episode. Let’s hope this Christmas lives up to expectations and RTD doesn’t do a Torchwood COE on us.

  24. November 16th, 2009 at 20:09 | #24

    Elaborating on my earlier, rather restricted comment of, “Terrifying”, my mother didn’t like this episode. She thought it was too scary. She runs a pre-school and kept muttering “I do not want my children watching this.”

    What she found scary, however, was The Flood. And its minions. What I found terrifying was the Doctor’s… well, I want to call it madness. So I’m going to.

    And because it scared my socks off, and had me clutching a pillow in fright (and I’m a “I-don’t-show-my-emotions” teenager), I’m rating this ep at 10/10. And Captain Adelaide Brooke was a jewel of a character.

  25. ChildofTime
    November 16th, 2009 at 20:18 | #25

    OMG. The Flood. :O Dalek appearance. :O Adelaide. :O Doctor going mad. :O General awesomeness. :O :D :)

    FANTASTIC! 10/10 for sure, it had everything an episode should have. Fantastically intense, utterly terrifying, superbly produced, directed, acted, etc. AMAZING! I still haven’t recovered. Loving the End of Time trail too, pure magic. My fave bit, however was the Doctor turning mad with power at the end. Sooo creepy, great work DT.

    ‘I’m the winner. The Time Lord victorious.’
    ‘And nothing can stop you.’

    BRILLIANT! Roll on Christmas and New Year’s day!!! Pure television gold. 39 days to goooooooo!

    ‘With great power comes great responsibility…’
    ‘You need someone to…stop you…’

  26. Steve
    November 17th, 2009 at 18:36 | #26

    Dreary and dull. Another good explain of why RTD has to go. Don’t get me wrong, the special effects were breathtaking. Seriously though, was this any better than an average season episode? I mean, what really happened? There was no real story, other than a group faced with disaster, running around and screaming. And wasn’t that what we had inThe Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. Seemed to me to be nearly a re-write!
    And the ending, seriously, after centuries of “having fun”, would the Doctor really let it all go to his head? Na!

    On another note, RTD “Going to be the scariest story ever”! Really? Like how? Nothing in it was really that scary. There are better examples in the early Tom Baker years.

    Roll on Christmas for “The End Of TIme” (6 Words????) Is it going to be another let down or a really great ending?

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