Comments on: New Series 6 BBC America trailer materialises online… /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/ Wed, 06 Apr 2011 04:55:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: JC /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-2/#comment-9303 JC Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:21:43 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9303 I have to admit, I can't remember a time during RTD's run on Doctor Who that I ever felt angry or actually felt like I really disliked like something. I agree it's in the same vein as the show since it returned, but something tangible has changed and even I don't know what it is. The feel of the show has changed for me, it doesn't feel like Doctor Who used to feel in Season 1 to 4, which also means it isn't that David Tennant aint there anymore because Chris Eccleston and David Tennant feel like the same Doctor Who with a different Doctor. I notice things a lot more now than I did. I mean, for instance, the sexual inuendos/behaviour. I know RTD did it, but I only remember that when I think about it. With Steven Moffat's writing, he feels like he's being deliberately provocative with his time as Head Writer. It really bothers me and is immediately noticable, perhaps because it's much closer to home now with Amy being as.....what's an appropriate word....feisty, perhaps, as she is. Moffat started by giving the Doctor a kissogram in Police/Nurse/Nun uniforms as a companion, I can't watch the end of Flesh and Stone because of how strongly Amy came on to the Doctor and I wouldn't want to watch the Comic Relief Specials again because the suggestion that Rory was looking up Amy's skirt through the transparent floor, in the context of Doctor Who only, genuinely makes me uncomfortable. Moffat thinks what he's writing is funny, a lot of fans seemingly back him up with me being wrong, which isn't the first time. His style of writing means I can't enjoy Doctor Who at the moment. Every episode, I'm waiting for him to do something that'll make me uncomfortable. Amy being a kissogram, Amy coming on to the Doctor quite strongly, Amy and Rory playing weird dress up games, Rory looking up Amy's skirt. And he does things like redesign the Daleks, which are now hideous, even if he does say he's gonna bring back the old design when the new ones come back, there's now doubt he meant the RTD Daleks and not ones from the 1960s/1970s. I do know that Doctor Who is just a TV show and quite surprisingly, it's not as important to me as it sounds, but I do watch Doctor Who to enjoy it and I admit, Steven Moffat's writing style has, does and likely will spoil that for me. Perhaps if Karen goes, it'll be better but the sad thing about that is that apart from some quite unsettling qualities about Amy, there are some really good bits too. Anyway, speech over, lol.........I don't suppose I've explained anything more clearly and may be leaving myself open to disagreement or attack, but these are my thoughts on things. I have to admit, I can’t remember a time during RTD’s run on Doctor Who that I ever felt angry or actually felt like I really disliked like something.

I agree it’s in the same vein as the show since it returned, but something tangible has changed and even I don’t know what it is. The feel of the show has changed for me, it doesn’t feel like Doctor Who used to feel in Season 1 to 4, which also means it isn’t that David Tennant aint there anymore because Chris Eccleston and David Tennant feel like the same Doctor Who with a different Doctor.

I notice things a lot more now than I did. I mean, for instance, the sexual inuendos/behaviour. I know RTD did it, but I only remember that when I think about it.

With Steven Moffat’s writing, he feels like he’s being deliberately provocative with his time as Head Writer. It really bothers me and is immediately noticable, perhaps because it’s much closer to home now with Amy being as…..what’s an appropriate word….feisty, perhaps, as she is. Moffat started by giving the Doctor a kissogram in Police/Nurse/Nun uniforms as a companion, I can’t watch the end of Flesh and Stone because of how strongly Amy came on to the Doctor and I wouldn’t want to watch the Comic Relief Specials again because the suggestion that Rory was looking up Amy’s skirt through the transparent floor, in the context of Doctor Who only, genuinely makes me uncomfortable. Moffat thinks what he’s writing is funny, a lot of fans seemingly back him up with me being wrong, which isn’t the first time.

His style of writing means I can’t enjoy Doctor Who at the moment. Every episode, I’m waiting for him to do something that’ll make me uncomfortable. Amy being a kissogram, Amy coming on to the Doctor quite strongly, Amy and Rory playing weird dress up games, Rory looking up Amy’s skirt.

And he does things like redesign the Daleks, which are now hideous, even if he does say he’s gonna bring back the old design when the new ones come back, there’s now doubt he meant the RTD Daleks and not ones from the 1960s/1970s.

I do know that Doctor Who is just a TV show and quite surprisingly, it’s not as important to me as it sounds, but I do watch Doctor Who to enjoy it and I admit, Steven Moffat’s writing style has, does and likely will spoil that for me. Perhaps if Karen goes, it’ll be better but the sad thing about that is that apart from some quite unsettling qualities about Amy, there are some really good bits too.

Anyway, speech over, lol………I don’t suppose I’ve explained anything more clearly and may be leaving myself open to disagreement or attack, but these are my thoughts on things.

]]>
By: TWWL /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9302 TWWL Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:43:18 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9302 <a href="#comment-9301" rel="nofollow">@JC</a> They're not going to actually change it though, there's no reason to, and a fan, like Moffat is, wouldn't. If it did ever change, it would tick me off, but off course I wouldn't stop watching, it's only one tiny element, as long as the show itself was still good; so I would argue that to actually stop watching if the way The Tardis materialises changed would be very much an overreaction. I have noticed you do seem very irked at things that happen in the show, as though Moffat was wrecking the programme, when, really, it's very much the same show it's been since it returned. Did you get this way during RTD's run? Because if things Moffat has done have angered you to the point of considering giving up on the show, I can't see how you couldn't have had exactly the same thoughts at points during RTD's reign. It's not as though Moffat's come in and gone crazy with the programme, he actually stayed, in series 5, a lot closer to what RTD had laid down than many hoped/expected he would. @JC
They’re not going to actually change it though, there’s no reason to, and a fan, like Moffat is, wouldn’t. If it did ever change, it would tick me off, but off course I wouldn’t stop watching, it’s only one tiny element, as long as the show itself was still good; so I would argue that to actually stop watching if the way The Tardis materialises changed would be very much an overreaction.

I have noticed you do seem very irked at things that happen in the show, as though Moffat was wrecking the programme, when, really, it’s very much the same show it’s been since it returned. Did you get this way during RTD’s run? Because if things Moffat has done have angered you to the point of considering giving up on the show, I can’t see how you couldn’t have had exactly the same thoughts at points during RTD’s reign. It’s not as though Moffat’s come in and gone crazy with the programme, he actually stayed, in series 5, a lot closer to what RTD had laid down than many hoped/expected he would.

]]>
By: JC /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9301 JC Sat, 02 Apr 2011 21:51:17 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9301 <a href="#comment-9296" rel="nofollow">@TWWL</a> It's not so much being over the top, in this case, it was about the identity of the show. The Tardis materialises and dematerialises a certain way, even people who hardly know of Doctor Who know that and to change it would change part of the identity of what Doctor Who is. To be honest, Season 5 really tested me as a fan and I could have walked away at points, even and especially as recently as the Comic Relief Specials, so I guess I am slightly over-sensitive to anything Moffat may do to........tick me off, shall we say. @TWWL
It’s not so much being over the top, in this case, it was about the identity of the show. The Tardis materialises and dematerialises a certain way, even people who hardly know of Doctor Who know that and to change it would change part of the identity of what Doctor Who is.

To be honest, Season 5 really tested me as a fan and I could have walked away at points, even and especially as recently as the Comic Relief Specials, so I guess I am slightly over-sensitive to anything Moffat may do to……..tick me off, shall we say.

]]>
By: TSG /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9299 TSG Sat, 02 Apr 2011 19:09:54 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9299 Are they leaving Amy behind? Why? ARGH! Brilliant trailer. Lots more dialogue than the UK one. And another 'Hello Sweetie'! :D Are they leaving Amy behind? Why? ARGH!

Brilliant trailer. Lots more dialogue than the UK one. And another ‘Hello Sweetie’! :D

]]>
By: TWWL /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9297 TWWL Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:43:34 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9297 Looks to me like it is indeed coming out of some sort of stealth mode, as opposed to landing. Looks to me like it is indeed coming out of some sort of stealth mode, as opposed to landing.

]]>
By: TWWL /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9296 TWWL Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:41:02 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9296 <a href="#comment-9259" rel="nofollow">@JC</a> It would spoil the show?! The whole show?! Never let it be said that us fans can be over the top! :) @JC
It would spoil the show?! The whole show?! Never let it be said that us fans can be over the top! :)

]]>
By: Professor Zed /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9284 Professor Zed Sat, 02 Apr 2011 04:21:57 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9284 Lots of interesting things in there to analyze! Bring on April 23rd! Lots of interesting things in there to analyze! Bring on April 23rd!

]]>
By: e.p /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9274 e.p Sat, 02 Apr 2011 01:28:02 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9274 <a href="#comment-9265" rel="nofollow">@The 13th Doctor</a> Aha. Right you are. Good, I'm not watching too much Doctor Who after all ;) @The 13th Doctor
Aha. Right you are. Good, I’m not watching too much Doctor Who after all ;)

]]>
By: The 13th Doctor /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9265 The 13th Doctor Fri, 01 Apr 2011 23:30:20 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9265 The part where he says "Trust me, Im the doctor..." is from The Eleventh Hour.... so its not David Tennant The part where he says “Trust me, Im the doctor…” is from The Eleventh Hour…. so its not David Tennant

]]>
By: TE /2011/04/new-series-6-bbc-america-trailer-materialises-online/comment-page-1/#comment-9264 TE Fri, 01 Apr 2011 22:50:35 +0000 /?p=24461#comment-9264 <a href="#comment-9261" rel="nofollow">@Ellen</a> The episode premieres in the UK first before being shown in the US a few hours later ;) @Ellen
The episode premieres in the UK first before being shown in the US a few hours later ;)

]]>