Comments on: Was The Wedding of River Song a runaway success? /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/ Tue, 15 Sep 2015 00:45:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Emerald /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-16007 Emerald Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:06:58 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-16007 <a href="#comment-16005" rel="nofollow">@Claire</a> Maybe, apparently all that time needed was for the Doctor to appear, and get shot at. And a form of the Doctor turned up and looked like he'd died. It would've been enough for the Silence. The fixed point was not the Doctor's death per se - after all, the 'fall of the Eleventh' looks like it'll be another fixed point - but just the appearance of his death. That's what I think, anyway. Wibbly wobbly... @Claire

Maybe, apparently all that time needed was for the Doctor to appear, and get shot at. And a form of the Doctor turned up and looked like he’d died. It would’ve been enough for the Silence. The fixed point was not the Doctor’s death per se – after all, the ‘fall of the Eleventh’ looks like it’ll be another fixed point – but just the appearance of his death.

That’s what I think, anyway. Wibbly wobbly…

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By: Claire /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-16005 Claire Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:09:03 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-16005 My confusion is: when River refused to kill the Doctor the universe began disintegrating because the Doctor's death was a fixed event. When River shot the robot Doctor, the real Doctor still wasn't dead! So why, if the Doctor's death had to have happened then to keep the universe stable, did time return to normal? People can be fooled but surely a force like time can't be. My confusion is: when River refused to kill the Doctor the universe began disintegrating because the Doctor’s death was a fixed event. When River shot the robot Doctor, the real Doctor still wasn’t dead! So why, if the Doctor’s death had to have happened then to keep the universe stable, did time return to normal? People can be fooled but surely a force like time can’t be.

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By: Grace /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-16004 Grace Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:33:52 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-16004 The only problem with that theory is that it means The Doctor could no longer go anywhere where The Silence would be because then his ruse would be over! Okay, changing the subject...sorta.... If the belief is the doctor married the robot (which if I saw what I thought I saw couldn't be it because he returned the robot suit...unless he was married before River/Melody came to see her mother and pass on the good news... Okay, leaving forum and rewatching the show again! I feel more confused now than before I saw it! The only problem with that theory is that it means The Doctor could no longer go anywhere where The Silence would be because then his ruse would be over!

Okay, changing the subject…sorta….

If the belief is the doctor married the robot (which if I saw what I thought I saw couldn’t be it because he returned the robot suit…unless he was married before River/Melody came to see her mother and pass on the good news…

Okay, leaving forum and rewatching the show again! I feel more confused now than before I saw it!

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By: Professor Zed /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15992 Professor Zed Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:14:23 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15992 <a href="#comment-15983" rel="nofollow">@TWWL</a> That's a nice theory, TWWL. It's great that that works for you. I'm sure many agree with you. I don't, and from what's being said all over a whole lot of message boards, neither do a whole lot others. Of course, as we all know, it's just a TV show. These discussions are all for fun. @TWWL
That’s a nice theory, TWWL. It’s great that that works for you. I’m sure many agree with you.

I don’t, and from what’s being said all over a whole lot of message boards, neither do a whole lot others.

Of course, as we all know, it’s just a TV show. These discussions are all for fun.

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By: TWWL /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15983 TWWL Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:39:05 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15983 <a href="#comment-15962" rel="nofollow">@Professor Zed</a> Yes,because the Doctor was trying to fool everyone, that's why the guy say's it's definitely him, it's not treating anyone like an idiot, it's selling the idea that he really is gone. Yes it misleads people, but that's the whole point! @Professor Zed
Yes,because the Doctor was trying to fool everyone, that’s why the guy say’s it’s definitely him, it’s not treating anyone like an idiot, it’s selling the idea that he really is gone. Yes it misleads people, but that’s the whole point!

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By: Grace /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15979 Grace Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:07:24 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15979 And like that my faith in the Whoniverse is restored! And like that my faith in the Whoniverse is restored!

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By: Professor Zed /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15977 Professor Zed Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:39:28 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15977 <a href="#comment-15970" rel="nofollow">@Grace</a> But River didn't marry the Doctor. She married the robot. Of course, as pathetic as River was with all her googly-eyed, "Oh, how I love the Doctor!" behavior in "Let's Kill Hitler" and "Wedding Of...", we know that all of that occurred a long time ago in her past. In River's future, she'll be all bad-ass, taking on nasty angel statues and evil shadows on the floors of libraries! @Grace
But River didn’t marry the Doctor. She married the robot.

Of course, as pathetic as River was with all her googly-eyed, “Oh, how I love the Doctor!” behavior in “Let’s Kill Hitler” and “Wedding Of…”, we know that all of that occurred a long time ago in her past. In River’s future, she’ll be all bad-ass, taking on nasty angel statues and evil shadows on the floors of libraries!

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By: Grace /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15970 Grace Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:21:35 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15970 Alright, you want to talk impossible I'm dead but no, not really scenarios: That would have been The Master's Return! Once we bought that faulty premise, that a Time Lord could survive if part of his essence was inside a ring then we could believe anything! Personally I found the idea that he was shrunk down inside a robotic human suit not so crazy! At least it was set up so you could swallow it by showing you HOW IT WAS DONE! But as for marrying River Song to the doctor, I think it was a cheap cop out. Part of River Song's mystery was that she was a woman of mystery. Now she's just tragic! She's sitting in a jail for killing the undead doctor! And Matt, who runs around with more women than all the Doctors combined seems like the least likely doctor to get married! Alright, you want to talk impossible I’m dead but no, not really scenarios: That would have been The Master’s Return! Once we bought that faulty premise, that a Time Lord could survive if part of his essence was inside a ring then we could believe anything!

Personally I found the idea that he was shrunk down inside a robotic human suit not so crazy! At least it was set up so you could swallow it by showing you HOW IT WAS DONE!

But as for marrying River Song to the doctor, I think it was a cheap cop out. Part of River Song’s mystery was that she was a woman of mystery. Now she’s just tragic! She’s sitting in a jail for killing the undead doctor!

And Matt, who runs around with more women than all the Doctors combined seems like the least likely doctor to get married!

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By: That Guy /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15965 That Guy Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:45:58 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15965 <a href="#comment-15958" rel="nofollow">@Simon</a> I know what u mean by it being brilliant. @Simon
I know what u mean by it being brilliant.

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By: Ellen /2011/10/was-the-wedding-of-river-song-a-runaway-success/comment-page-1/#comment-15964 Ellen Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:47:57 +0000 /?p=40897#comment-15964 <a href="#comment-15944" rel="nofollow">@mpirks</a> well tha wrong because i am a die hard fans and i get it @mpirks

well tha wrong because i am a die hard fans and i get it

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