Scrap it, if they are going to be selective about what to show, it is not worth it!

Oh well. Seems fair enough if we both just get a lttle different. We can find out about the other version online.

Watch the US episode be better than the UK. That’s the way the show is heading…

I bet the UK version will cut out unnecessary violence, and the US version will cut out British-ness and dialogue. Brilliant.
Really, with everything on the internet now I don’t see why they even bother having two versions. The biggest fans are going to watch both anyway…

@e.p

Totslly agree the UK will cut out the Unnecessary violence which really if shown in the UK use audience would be like, why? lol and US will cut out some of that Torchwood britishness we love about it.. So good move really, but still going to keep track of the US episodes…I don’t think they’ll really be to much difference, just parts of scenes cut and a few bits of different dialouge here and there.

The only real difference from the UK will most likely be absent unnecessary sex scenes rather than violence.

Normally, when more and more news is released about shows such as doctor who and torchwood I become more and more interested in the actual series…..

However with this series of torchwood and the american influence as well as different aire dates and the like I have been getting more and more disillusioned with it…..

You might not be able to see the other version online- sometimes they block people from various places watching certain things. They should have aired it about the same time in both countries or is it now just another American program we have to wait 6 months or more to get, like often happens with a lot of kids’ cartoons made or re-worked/translated from the Japanese in the US. We are lucky with Pokemon to be only 10 episodes behind (according to my oldest son based on what he’s seen online we’re 10 episodes behind). I thought this was supposed to be a bit of a joint effort with a lot of stuff about the clash between British and American cultures (which now is probably all cut out for the Americans). We don’t even know when we will get to see it but they do- if its not blocked many Torchwood fans will have seen the US version long before the UK version is aired and probably won’t watch it as they have already seen the US version (reduction in ratings here as a result and Torchwood just gets handed completely to the Americans and we lose compltetely one of our best TV shows).

Personally I won’t mind unnecessary sex being deleted but from what I understand there are a lot of people who won’t like it and if they can see the US version online people like that won’t watch the UK version. I do think that the Americans are really missing out on part of what was supposed to be a key bit of what was part of what was advertised it would be all about, other than what if no one died of course, if the Britishness is deleted.

FFS I’m sick of being treated like this. As taxpayers we not only payed for most of miracle day but we also payed for the entire damn franchise to exist! Now we get a watered down version of what seems to be an over Americanised show that we get late!?! Madness, I’ll be glad to miss out on BBC viewing and just get the American stuff early.

Lol it’s the male nudity and the man sex barrowman was talking about- they would never show that here in the U.S. on telivision.

we all know Torchwood has gay sex scenes and if it has gratuitous violence so what,a warning at the beginning of the show will give the viewer the choice whether to watch or not.
Anyway it means there will be a special edition box set of both versions for sale so more money for the BBC/STARZ and as long as they spend it on another series i dont mind that.

The differences will be minimal, it’ll be the odd trim here or there, no big deal.

I was a big Highlander fan in the 90s, and that was also a transatlantic co-production (half Canadian, filmed in Vancouver, and half French, filmed in Paris). There were differences, because you have to edit it differently in the different countries, but they were minimal. Mostly, the European edit was longer, and fans started calling the extra bits “Eurominutes”. So this sort of thing is not dissing Britain; it’s in fact normal practice. (Indeed, I believe both Torchwood and Doctor Who have been edited for US audiences in past. It’s particularly obvious with Doctor Who, which has had some extremely awkward commercial breaks in the US broadcast edit. BBC America made the rare move of reducing the commercial length to allow “The Impossible Astronaut” and “Day of the Moon” to run without further trimming, by getting a corporate sponsor for the broadcast, but that’s not typical.) They’ve said they’re going to be removing some offending material to suit BBC1’s standards (the US generally has stricter rules for broadcast, but Starz is premium cable so there is an assumption that only people who want to watch it will have access anyway), and of course the US edit will have to be shorter to accommodate the commercial breaks. RTD knows what he’s doing; he’ll make sure it’s nothing that would harm the story.

What I wonder most is which edit (if either) will be used for the DVD. Past practice on such things has been that the European edits are used for DVD release, because you don’t have to worry about offending the Federal Communications Commission (the “naughty word police” in the US, who can only regulate broadcast) and because viewers like the promise of getting a little bit more — and because it’s much cheaper to only need one master copy. But in this case, the European edit will have fewer naughty bits, so they might go with the US edit. I’m hoping they do a “director’s cut” version for the DVD, with all of it.

@Adam Towers
I couldn’t have put it better, I shall be waiting for the audience reaction before I watch it, its lost most of its apeal to me now that its gone to the USA, just another ScFi programme in the ranks of hundreds to bite the dust in the USA – and it will, Americans get bored of stuff quickly.

the actual air date for the uk is thursday 14th july at 9pm on bbc one

As the episodes are only around 50 minutes long, I doubt there’ll be much cut anyway.

@Calli Arcale
In fact, Starz usually runs the ad’s for 15 to 20 minutes before and after the broadcast, which will be uninterupted. The editing will be more likly over nudity/ adult theme style issues. (I’m not sure who’s more “liberal” American cable networks or the Beeb.)

It’s true they don’t put commercials in the middle like the broadcast networks, but they do still run an awful lot of them at the ends; it will still need to be shorter in the US and cut for time — 15 minutes out of an hour draws it down to 45 minutes, which means the US edit has to be shorter. Not as much as if it had to be edited down for, say, NBC. (Man, can you imagine how wussified it would have to be to air on NBC?)

As far as there being less violence and perhaps nudity on the UK edit, I’m just going by what’s been reported during interviews with RTD and the production team.

AshtonRoad — who says Americans get bored of stuff quickly? Yeah, it’s hard to compete with nearly 50 years of Doctor Who, but Star Trek has had a keen following since 1967, Star Wars since 1977, X-Files ran for nine years (which is pretty good when you can’t realistically change your lead actors), MST3K ran for eleven years despite very austere production values…. And y’know, we’ve been fans of Doctor Who over here for decades, despite having far more obstacles to our fandom than you guys in Britain have. We’d have every excuse to have gotten bored with Doctor Who, when our local PBS station stops running it and for fifteen years all we can do is buy the VHS tapes as the BBC gradually releases them, and rewatch our homemade broadcast recordings until they wear out. But we didn’t.

It’s true that hundreds of shows have bit the dust in the US. Lots of shows have bit the dust in Britain too. It’s the nature of television; not everything sticks. Not everything is a Doctor Who or a Sesame Street, something people grow up with and then share with their own children. Most things are flash-in-the-pan. Red Dwarf squeaked out eight short seasons, though the last one was pretty clearly evidence they were done. The Prisoner ran for 17 superb episodes (more than Patrick McGoohan wanted, actually). Space: 1999 lasted three years. Blake’s 7 pulled off four seasons — which, I should point out, is what this will be for Torchwood, so if Torchwood ends after this season, it will be ending in good company for its length. “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” was two seasons on radio, one on television. And in this context, it would be difficult not to mention the ill-fated “K-9 and Company” which lasted for but a single episode. (Thankfully, “Sarah Jane Adventures” did much better, though its end in the middle of Season Five is hardly anybody’s fault.) Doctor Who is very much a peculiarity for lasting so long; few dramas last more than four seasons.

@Calli Arcale
I hope we get a director’s cut for the DVD too! That would be great. In the meantime, I’m going to hope that all the ‘man sex’ remains in the UK version! It wouldn’t be Torchwood if it didn’t!