@nicole
They’ll be back.

@JohnC
because amy was seven years old when her “raggedy doctor” left her behind.

@nicole
just proves how the writers don’t think about specific detail innit?

@TWWL
Ah, but Melody wasn’t born black. That’s distinct evidence that she had regenerated at least once already before finding them. How many years did their daughter spend alone? In their timestream, those years are occurring now. Hence my point about them knowing and accepting the end result, but failing entirely to mention the ramifications of the process to get there. Have they not even made the connection to the little girl in the NASA spacesuit?

@TSG
I thought 50 minutes was an alright length. Then again, it is a bit like The Vampires of Venice which was a perfectly good episode until it was all resolved in the last minute.

DT’s Dr said sorry every week, fine. MS Dr says please now all too often. Lets have the Dr in charge & control at some point soon, to be brave, rampant & leading from the front alone like the hero he should be.

Little Amy didn’t like apples, then her mum drew faces on them. The last apple the doctor had was given to him by Amy and it had a face on it. Maybe it was enough to convert him too?

Also, I’ve listened to everyone’s theory about what would have been in the doctor’s room and it dawned on me that there seems to only be one thing that has consistently scared every doctor since their inception. Nothingness.

Every time we see them, no matter the incarnation they’re always rushing off to see some great new and wondrous thing. Can you imagine if the doctor woke up and discovered he’d seen it all, done it all? He would have no reason to be.

His faith has to be that there is always going to be something new just over the horizon waiting for him to explore and experience.

@Grace
i don’t think nothingness would have set off the cloister bell really

@TSG
yep thant true

If it meant the doctor’s end the bell would ring.

I liked this one. I seem to be easy to please, because I like most episodes. Like a lot of episodes, this one would’ve been improved by making it longer. Oh, how much delicious terror could’ve been explored! I’m actually a little disappointed nobody turned out to have coulrophobia (fear of clowns) given how lovely that shot of the creepy clown was. And if previous guests’ fears were persisting, there was a missed opportunity to freak us out with more of those. On the other hand, it was missed for time; there simply wasn’t enough to explore that. Oh, to see this remade feature-length or longer!

I liked the idea of the creature needing people to have faith in him, and using fears as a way of breaking in. It made me think a bit of the Discworld novel “Small Gods”, which wasn’t at all the same story but had kind of a similar premise — gods requiring believers in order to have an existence worth having, and perishing if they are not careful about cultivating enough followers.

I don’t think we can assume Rory has no fears or faith. It was clearly going after them one at a time; it just hadn’t gotten to him yet. Since there was a room for the Doctor, obviously it was going to go after him as well; notice that he didn’t deny it when Amy pointed this out and asked what Time Lords pray to. He didn’t answer the question, but he didn’t deny it. He changed the subject instead. Obviously not a comfortable subject. (Rassilon, perhaps? An awkward person to believe in, after the Time War.)

What was in the Doctor’s room . . . .

While of course we were all hoping to see inside, I’m glad they didn’t show us. It’s one of those things where it’s better to try and imagine it for ourselves. Someone is in there — who? The Doctor himself, I suspect. Perhaps as he ends the Time War, an act which was necessary but which he is not at all proud of. Perhaps it is a memory from much earlier in his life. The events of Logopolis, where the Cloister Bell sound FX was introduced? Probably not. The Valeyard, who is not so much a memory as a possible future? A distinct possibility. Or perhaps a family member. We know the Doctor had a family once; he had a granddaughter, after all. He never speaks of his own children. What became of them? Did he abandon them, or did something terrible happen causing him to flee with just Susan? The latter would make more sense given she never seemed to question their arrangement. I don’t think it was River in that room; I think it’s something else. But what, I think we will never know — and probably *should* never know.

Anyone remember DT’s Doctor Who when he was supposed to be facing down the creature in the Satan Pit. He gave a long speech about fake gods and demigods, but the one thing he said he believed in was Rose.

I loved “Satan Pit”, even if I was starting to get a little tired of the Rose obsession by then. It was so believably acted that it didn’t matter.

Does he still have that kind of faith in Rose, I wonder, or was that just #10? He seemed to display that level of faith in Amy when he trusted her to remember the Universe back into existence in “The Big Bang”. (That is one hell of a responsibility, after all.) Is there anything else he has that much faith in? The TARDIS? If yes, that might relate to why we heard the Cloister Bell in his room. Or perhaps Time itself?

Just watched it yesterday (late, I know)
I thought it was good, a bit confusing at times but not a bad episode. It was a clever idea, and at the end the matrix sort of thing falling apart reminded me of something that might happen in Classic Who.

The only real thing that sort of bugged me- As soon as the Doctor said Rita was clever I knew she would be killed off. *sigh*. That’s always the way with Doctor Who… :/