Sorry to say but I hated it. I have loved it for years but that finale was a sort of hit and miss and miss for me and I am a huge fan. The only thing that made up for up was the last moment bit which made me laugh and the bit where missy sings “oh missy you’re so fine you blow my mind hey missy” but that’s it for me.

A truly apalling end to a once great show, more terrible writing, an hour of car crash bad TV…….FINISHED OFF BY SANTA CLAUS???? RIP DR WHO!

the worst dr.who episode in recent times what the hell were the thinking it had so much poyrnyial but felt like the rsn out of ideas this is one fan who will not be eatching this rubbish anymore.Moffat has lost it.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I’m almost in mourning for Doctor Who. What a dismal and worthless end to a dismal and worthless Series.

I wouldn’t normally say something as strongly as that, as I know there will be those who enjoyed it and will defend it, but I feel this strongly tonight.

I’ve been with the Doctor since his 9th incarnation and followed his adventures with Rose, Martha, Donna and Amy and I’ve loved it. Sure, I hated Moffat’s decisions sometimes, but the Doctor shone so brightly that I quickly forgot. He danced among the stars and took us all along for the ride and what a ride it was.

…….. but then Series 8 happened.

The Series has been like a flat fizzy drink, a weak tea for the whole series with only two minor moments to hint at a taste of sugar.

The Mistress was an insult to the Master I knew. I didn’t like how she kept changing her accent, even if mockingly, and the only time she showed the slightest hint of being The Master was just before she killed Osgood. She had no plan, she had no reason for being in the Series at all and her murder at the end of the episode was false and I felt nothing. Consider the massive difference between this pointless episode and the three-parter that ended Series 3.

The Cybermen had no purpose either and despite traveling with two Doctors, Clara bowed out of the with whimper and bringing back The Brigadier as a Cyberman was nothing but a desperate gimmick that wasn’t emotional or poignant, but transparent for what it really was.

Indeed, Doctor Who, in the space of one series, has crashed and burnt. I honestly and truly believe that Steven Moffat has lost his grip on the show, the Doctor regenerated and he had no idea what to do. He co-wrote more episodes of this series than ever before and it suffered for it.

I’m sorry, I know there will be some that were happy with this series and I don’t mean to make you feel bad, but I really do.

I loved Doctor Who and in the space of twelve weeks, I’ve watched the show I loved disintegrate before my eyes and do you know what the worst thing is? …….. The BBC won’t care what we think. The show’s rating is up internationally, there will be enough fans to put us down, claim we were never really fans and that they love the Series more than ever.

I just can’t believe it. As an RTD fan, I experienced Series finales that blew my mind, not just in Doctor Who but in Torchwood as well. What I watched tonight was one of the most colourless, storyless pieces of television I’ve watched.

I’m the highest poster on Whoviannet. I contributed to their 50th Anniversary book “The Doctor & I”, I became a Doctor Who fan because I loved the ideas and the rich story and the 9th, 10th and 11th Doctors took me away from my problems for 45 minutes a week and they were great.

Tonight, I’m left feeling lost. I don’t know if I’m a fan of Doctor Who or not now. It’s not the show I’ve loved for eight years and yet, I don’t want to let it go.

To those who liked Series 8 and like Moffat’s era in general, please don’t feel you have to attack me or those who really didn’t. I can really respect those who are able to hang in there and their opinions.

That’s all I have to say for now.

Absolutely awesome episode! I loved it as did the rest of my family, Doctor Who does not exist to meet our expectations, but to challenge them and exceed them and this episode did all of that.
Since we seem to have descended to bragging about our qualifying attributes for commenting, I would just say that I have been a Doctor Who viewer since 23rd November 1963 and I am very happy with Mr. Moffat and his ideas for our hero, and ‘Missy’ was superbly acted and written. The series changes, it always has, and if you can’t accept that maybe you are better off seeking your entertainment elsewhere. Somewhere where all is static and dependable, and doesn’t dare to risk losing an audience while in search of new adventures in time and space. RTD was brilliant but that was then, this is now and to stand still is to stagnate. Peace and Love X

Unfortunately I agree wholeheartedly with the comments above. It was a truly appalling episode and there was no enjoyment in it for me, whatsoever.

First of all, I don’t understand how EVERYONE can forget about the cybermen? Has the episode Army Of Ghosts been forgotten? They pretended to be ghosts for months, it even got so popular that there was a ghost watch, but now everyone is taking selfies with them? Sure, they’ve changed their look but it’s not that drastic.
And Osgood… I didn’t really feel much emotion when she died because we’ve only met her a few times but to bring her back for this episode just for her to die half way through was pointless. The doctor didn’t even acknowledge it either. He noticed her glasses and he got on with it. Kate Stewart and ‘The Brigadier’ felt wasted and talking of pointless characters – Missy!
Moffat brought the Master back, changed him to a woman to cause controversy and get ratings up and then totally underused him/her for the entire episode. Was the Master needed for this series finale? Absolutely not. It could have been any old evil guy forming an alliance with the Cybermen. I think about how menacing and crazy but calculating John Simm was as well as Roger Delgado and it was perfect. To see him go from such an iconic and important character in Doctor Who to a character in the background who had a couple of lines and then got killed like a red shirt. It just left a very sour taste in my mouth. The Doctor and Clara said a farewell at the end of the episode, we know Clara is in the Xmas special so it’s likely they will meet again but frankly I don’t care. Danny could be gone for good, I wouldn’t give a damn. These characters have just become something I tolerate now. In days gone by I would be rooting for companions. I felt like Rose or Martha were my family, I wanted to see Donna succeed because she was like a best friend. Clara and Danny are dull, their story is weak. Whether or not Danny will return, who knows, we will have to wait and see.

The only positive thing I will say for the episode is that is was stronger than the previous Moffat finales which have been a mess of timey wimey plot holes. The Wedding of River Song and Name of the Doctor were both terrible and this was a slight step up. Saying that I didn’t enjoy and it rounded off the series as a whole for me. Series 8 = the series that gave up.

Yup, that one episode (let’s not mention the bloody tree one) has ruined what was a great series.

1. So.. Danny is actually dead. Then how is Orson Pink ever bloody born?!

2. Oswin dies. She’s a die hard fan of the doctor, symbolic that such a fan of the doctor has been killed off!

3. Cyber rain… Really..?

4. The Brigidier corpse a cyberman. My nads are still aching from that swift kick.

5. Clara leaves… We knew that would happen.

6. The Master/Mistress did it all for the sodding birthday present.. Are you seriously taking the p**s now Moffat!!

7. The Doctor’s darkside was brought up by Missy ‘oh my god! They are going to actually give us the valeyard!!’ Nope.. Not a chance

8. Santa Claus… Bloody Santa bloody Claus!!

9. What… Happened… To… The… Master!!!!!!!

Colin Baker gets such flack by people for being a low scorer in polls. But his actual Performance as the Doctor, if you ignore the diabolical writing, is quite sublime.

Peter Capaldi is now heading the same way. He really has been the greatest Doctor of the whole reboot, but with utter sh*te like tonight’s finale, he might as well order the technicolour jacket for xmas, he’s gonna need it.

*Osgood, not Oswin.
Anger level has dropped a little now.

@JC
I thought the whole series was okay but I actually only liked 3 episodes and this is the lowest I have ever liked, as the minimum since the resurrection has always been 9 or ten. Don’t get me wrong Capaldi is great as the Doctor through but the writing has been all over the place. But I agree with you here Im a bit lost with the series now, not lost as in I DONT UNDERSTAND lost as in WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO WHO? The series does better when Moffatt wrote the first, the middle and the last two not nearly every episode!!!! I honestly don’t know if I want to continue watching

So was Moffat directing while drinking? Is that why the entire episode made no sense! It was full of pointless points!

Kate mysteriously lives, not because the doctor catches her with the TARDIS as he could have but a cyberman saves her! Oh, and to really show how out of his mind he was he made the cyberman the Brigadier!

Missy mysteriously ends up out of her handcuffs and pointlessly kills the girl everyone liked! Even the bad guy we liked died for no reason!

And if that was Clara’s last episode it was the worst exit in the history of exits!

Why not make Clara pregnant so in some way Danny lives? If Moffat went through the trouble of creating a love story why not finish it? This is the reason people hate Moffat’s era! He has no follow through! He doesn’t seem to know what the word even means!

Peter Capaldi turned out to be a great doctor which is sad because no one will remember that about him. He’ll be the doctor that left everyone feeling sick thanks to the terrible director that spit in the face of every fan!

Absolutely dreadful. As disappointed as I was with “Dark Water”, I had thought that “Death In Heaven” would be a great comeback and surprise me with some really wild revelations about what was really going on.

That never happened. In fact, “Death in Heaven” actually was worse than “Dark Water”. Combined, these two episodes make up one of the worst Doctor Who stories ever.

Oh, and if you’re going to rip-off the conclusion of another Doctor Who story, try not to make it an already sub-par episode. And “sub-par” is exactly what “Sontaran Strategem/Poison Sky” is. Burn off the smoke/Burn off the cloud/Burn off the fans.

And then to top off the excruciating pain, we get Nick Frost entering the TARDIS to invite the Doctor and us to Christmas Day. Perhaps I shouldn’t be so negative about Santa. Maybe children were excited to see him. For me, it’s just mixed in with the garbage of the previous hour.

A confused mess. Moffat is getting away with telling stories that are not properly plotted out. Is it good or bad that the majority of viewers don’t realize it? On other forums, I’m reading a vast majority of positive comments for “Death in Heaven”. I wish I could have watched the version of “DIH” that they all watched. The one I watched was an incomprehensible pile of…

For the record:

I thought “Mummy”, “Flatline”, “Caretaker”, “Deep Breath” and “Listen” were really good.

I thought “Into the Dalek” was good.

I thought “Robot of Sherwood”, “Time Heist” and “Forest of the Night” were fair.

I thought “Dark Water/Death In Heaven” was bad.

I thought “Kill The Moon” was awful.

I’ve been a fan of the Dr since An Unearthly Child way back when,,,
Having said that, JC, Katie, The 13th Doctor, you’re all correct.
Capaldi is a great actor but he’s being hamstrung by lousy scripts (and this was one of the worst). All thru this season, it’s been more and more obvious that Moffat is on some kind of power trip.
It’s sad, but I don’t think I’ll be watching any more episodes that Moffat has ANYTHING to do with.

I think JohnnyBoy very much misunderstood why I was mentioning how involved I’ve been with Whoviannet. It wasn’t to brag, it wasn’t to say that my opinion means more than others, it was actually to show that I’m not just a casual fan who finds it easy to criticise Doctor Who, quite the opposite actually and yet, I felt strongly enough last night that I had to go for the jugular of Death In Heaven and to be honest, I still do.

This is further reinforced by the fact that others have felt the same as me about the episode and noticed the same glaring problems. IE: The Mistress not feeling like The Master and not having any role in the episode / The Cybermen standing round in graveyards doing nothing for the whole episode.

As for the whole human race taking selfies with the Cybermen, it’s even more confusing than Katie mentioned, because if you listen to the News in the episode, they actually mention the human race’s last encounter with the Cybermen and yet, everyone acts as if they’re the greatest thing they’ve ever seen. Still, at least Moffat didn’t claim his cracks erased them from time like he does with everything else he finds inconvenient.

I also don’t think it’s right to tell me that I can’t handle change and that I haven’t moved on from the RTD era, since I worked hard to accept the 11th Doctor. I also far from want static and boring stories, when my complaint about Series 8 was the flat nature of the stories.

As for what I should and shouldn’t watch, I kind of decide that for myself.

Fantastic episode, truly ended the series on the High! I wanted to do a long review that went into detail about everything but that took WAY to long but I will say this; the plot was great, well paced and brought to life with some great mages, particular the Cybermen in the Graveyard. I love Missy, she was a blooming marvellous opponent and although there are many questions about her unanswered, I have accepted her as one of the Master family.
The moment where the Doctor flew towards the TARDIS was so cheesy and awesome! I hope Seb comes back. Episode had so much lovely emotionally scenes, Danny and Clara, The Doctor finding Gallifrey and yet attacking the TARDIS and of course, The Brigadier. I nearly cried with tears. That was truly the send of Alister Gordon Lethbridge Stewart desserved, defying the Cybermen control, saving his Daughter, finally getting the salute he so desired from the Doctor and going up into the sky’s in a puff of flame. A true tribute to Brigadier and Nicholas Courtney.

Really really enjoyed this episode, made up for watching all the bad ones this season. I hope that next season will be better. I am sadden to hear that many fans have lost their love of the show. I must admit Doctor Who isn’t what it used to be. People say this happened when Moffat took over but I think it’s gone downhill when the Pond era ended. The episodes just seems weaker. But there have been some comeback episodes such as Day of the Doctor, and I am pleased to say this episode is one of them. I hope that Doctor Who will once again regain what it has lost and that fans who have lost their love of the show will one day regain it.

Apologies for the tone of my previous post. I think last night might have been make or break for some of us and it broke and emotions are high.

I really don’t want to get into arguments with fans that enjoyed the Series, I’m glad they did and I know we all welcome comments from those who enjoyed the Series. I really wish I had.

I came on here and expected to see lots of comments disagreeing with how I felt about last nites episode… but find pretty much everyone in agreement with me! Thanks guys.
A very up-and-down season, only saved by some good character development (at last) for Clara and she settles in a new Doctor. PC has been up and down, genuinely struggled to like him early on, but he has found his feet, apart from last night. Yes, the writing is the worst thing this season and it has felt like SM either has an axe to grind with fans or genuinely isn’t bothered anymore.
So much wrong with last night I don’t know where to start – wasted Cybermen, ‘Cyber rain’, flying Sentinels, sorry Cybermen, too many nods to the Brig that culminated in that daft Brig/Cyberman scene, the ‘new’ Master who virtually didn’t have any reason/plot to be there and why was he/she working withe Cybermen…where did that come from? I still don’t know why it needed a whole season arc to bring him/her back.
Almost tempted not bother with next season, I feel so disappointed in how the show has fallen from grace in terms of charm, wit, inventiveness. Is it time for DW to have a rest…or just get rid of SM????

I have been a fan of the show for decades, meet many of the actors, producers, script/head writer. I have seen the pride in the faces of those who have made the show and the pain! When RTD left I thought “thank god, we will have some really great stories” I thought Steven M would live up to his promises he made about the Doctor etc……. How wrong I was –
First of all, yesterday afternoon, Watch showed Boom Town, the weakest of Chris E season and it was far better than anything this season.

Then I watched “Death In Heaven”, I have been saying all this season, this is no longer Doctor Who, this is the Clara show and SM did not let me down – the opening scene with the Cybermen challenging Clara and she said “I am the Doctor”, my heart sank and then worse, the titles had her as the leading actor and her face in the titles. The the episode continued, now overall Peter C did have a lot more to do than a lot of other epsiodes and has proved he is the Doctor but the script really let him down. The flying Cybermen – Really? Missy/Master ranting on about being bananas – one thing the Master never was is bananas – psychotic definitely but not bananas! As for the Brig at the end – Roger Delgado, Anthony Ainley, Barry Letts, Jon Pertwee and Nicholas Courtney will all be turning in their graves.

What was worse about this episode was Osgood’s and Kate Stewart’s lack of presence. Nothing wrong with either actor but they just did not have the same strength as they did in Day of the Doctor. I love the character of Kate Stewart, played by both Beverley Cressman and Jemma Redgrave. I think when Clara finally leaves, Jemma Redgrave would made a great companion.

Yes, when Clara leaves, another unoriginal ending, already done in Timeflight. She apparently is going to be back for the Clara show at Christmas.

The ending with Santa Claus was ok but you have to ask, if the Doctor thinks Robin Hood is just a legend, wouldn’t Father Christmas be a fairy tale – hhmmmm – an opening for a Sherlock/Doctor cross over?? – I hope not!

I am not some casual Doctor Who fan, one who jumped on the bandwagon when the handsome face of Matt Smith appeared from the TARDIS but a fan who has been watching the programme all my life from before the reboot happened and I can say I have watched it for at least 15 of my 20 years. Death in Heaven was the worst finale i have ever seen.

Missy was built up as a strange, mysterious and powerful being who I admit when revealed as the Master did blow my mind and make me giggle slightly as I thought we were gearing up for a cracker of a finale. However Death in Heaven not only nerfed the character of the Master by self referencing the face that the Master is insane and then going way too far with that persona. Also the Master is now completely dead… Great I love the Master but now that he is dead makes me feel like the show has lost a big part of itself and the whole reason for the building of the Cyber army from the dead is very half arsed.

Bringing the brigadier back from the dead for a 30 second cameo as a cyberman is beating a dead horse until the fanboys scream in delight. It fills me with sadness that Moffat believes that we are so into his little woven plot web that every twist makes us buy a plush Dalek or buy the DVDs. I was so excited for Capaldi and after the triumph that was the 50th anniversary and the Time of the Doctor I thought Moffat had his act together but perhaps I expected too much. Doctor Who and I shall never ever ever get back together. R.I.P Doctor Who you shall be missed.

Looks like they are chasing a younger audience on dr who now, – those too young to read or write. Might work until they discover lego bricks and torturing ants with a magnifying glass in the sun.