Discussion: So, where should Torchwood go next?

June 10th, 2012
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Since the sun set over Miracle Day back in September last year, Torchwood fans the world over have been waiting with baited breath to discover what’s to come for Jack and Gwen.

Nearly a year later, and we are still no closer to finding out, but – with repeats of the latest series beginning on Watch tomorrow – we thought it’s as good a time as any to invite you to share your own feelings about the show’s future. It’s all up in the air at the moment, but we’ve each got our own idea about where the spin off should go next. What’s yours?

Would you, like John Barrowman and Eve Myles, like to see our heroes take the leap to the big screen? Perhaps you agree with Eve when she says “there is life” left in the show, but don’t think a film is the right answer? Would you like to see another story arc based series, or should the show make a return to its original ‘alien of the week’ format?

Maybe you don’t want the series back at all? Has it well and truly run out of steam? Has the time come for it to be laid to rest? If so why? Have your say in the comments below!

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14 comments on this article
  1. drwhogenesis
    June 10th, 2012 at 6.45pm | #1

    Torchwood’s best efforts were in Series 2, by far. Series one was trying to prove it was different from Doctor Who, and series 3, while powerful, lacked a strong team. Series 4 has replacements for the team that aren’t very good and just moan all the time, and all the good characters in series 4 were killed. We’re now left with a gimmick of immortality for two of our characters, and a Gwen who seems to be getting more out of control and idiotic.

    So basically – unless a new, British team was found (nothing against America, it’s just the best thing about Torchwood has always been its Britishness), then there wouldn’t be much point in another series. We do need some form of ending though, a happy one would be nice. Maybe a Christmas special, where we don’t have a cliched ending like the death of Gwen?

  2. Henry Eggleton
    June 10th, 2012 at 7.05pm | #2

    Keep the new guy but return to Britain & reestablish Torchward, thre problems and aliens they face could make for a new series on TV

  3. Olly
    June 10th, 2012 at 7.13pm | #3

    I really like Torchwood since day 1. Series 1 & 2 were brilliant but to be honest I actually prefer the long story arc based series, as I’ve thoroughly enjoyed both Children of Earth and Miracle Day and I’d really like to see what “plan B” involves. Film for me is a no, I believe Torchwood started off and should always remain a television show. I’d like them to come back to Cardiff but also keep the worldwide feel to it as well, like they’d be based in Wales but go around the world on missions etc.

  4. Borusa
    June 10th, 2012 at 7.19pm | #4

    Torchwood needs to end!

    I love the show and think it’s one of the great adult sci-fi shows of the modern era, but the format has been messed with, characters have been killed off and we’re now at the point where I’m pretty much tired of it.

    Miracle Day didn’t so much kill off for me, because I actually quite liked it and still do, but it did feel tired and worn out. The show feel like it’s coming to its natural end, because there’s no much else to do and very little remains.

    For me the high point has and always will be ‘Children of Earth’. It had a gripping story, it felt like Torchwood, it had scale and I really liked the trio team we had there. Somehow I think those three together worked better than the original five members crew, because they were all in it together. Ianto had much more to do and it’s a shame he was killed off. The only down point is it would have been great to see just Jack, Gwen and Ianto in a full 13-part series instead of a serial. I don’t care what anyone says, CoE is the best Torcwhood has ever been IMO.

    We need a film or feature-length special to bring closure to the series. Jack and Gwen are all that remain and it would be great to see a story where the world is in peril, but they’re the only two that can help, yet the world has turned on them and no one trusts Torchwood. I would love to see what Torcwhood would truly be like with just two members, fighting it out and trying to survive.

    With SJA coming to an abrupt end, Torchwood needs to end as well after its fifth incarnation.

  5. Apaulio
    June 10th, 2012 at 7.25pm | #5

    Years ago, when series 1 of Torchy was on I taught BA film media and we all watched the show to discuss it the next day. That’s the only fond memory I have of the show really. A great initial concept let down often by a lack of focus and originality IMO. All I can remember of series 1 and 2 now are Russel’s diatribes, the cyber bikini, some hammy comedy and the occasional piece of excellent acting from Gwen. 

    Series 3 had some excellent moments but I couldn’t get away from the idea that the main focal actor was miscast (I couldn’t divorce Tucker from proceedings), the best conceit was ripped wholesale from independence day and th end felt cynical and uneasant for the sake of it.  Series 4 I gave up on a handful of episodes in as it felt like an am dram presentation of some dodgey fan fic. 

    Could it come back? Can’t see how, although the initial concept was cool (I’m sure I read an interview before s1 that they were going for a men in black/csi:who vibe which would have been amaze). Instead we got the televised continuation of Russel’s sermons on sexuality, poor comedy and characters who make a sequence of increasingly ridiculous decisions under the guise of selfish heroism. 

    Not a fan, then :) but I’d be well up for something that took the strength of the premise and did it well. Sarah Jane adventures and Who know what they’re doing and did it well. Torchy was a countries mess and s4 was its pinnacle (or nadir, maybe a bit of both).  
     

  6. Apaulio
    June 10th, 2012 at 7.28pm | #6

    A countries mess? Thanks autocorrect.

    Cant even think what the word was. Complete? Ridiculous? Something along those lines.

  7. Joe
    June 10th, 2012 at 10.23pm | #7

    I loved Torchwood but after series 4 I think it should end.

  8. Sebastian
    June 10th, 2012 at 11.21pm | #8

    Torchwood was great, but it has had its day. Series 1 and 2 were fantastic but after that they went downhill. It’s over. But if they did bring it back I would like standalone stories, rather than one story for 10 episodes. S4 was a disaster. It went on and on.

  9. Lewis
    June 11th, 2012 at 6.51am | #9

    Torchwood is great and still has the potential to be great. I mean this may sound ridiculous but they could always bring Martha Jones and Mickey smith into Torchwood. There was a part in series two where Martha was there and when she left Jack told her there would always be a spot on the team for her.

  10. Rosalie
    June 11th, 2012 at 8.08am | #10

    Bring it back to Wales for a final series (Miracle Day was all just a dream…they were under the influence of psychic pollen…of course there are no Americans…of course Jack’s immortality has nothing to do with blood…) and then end it well. CoE was amazing television, but there is not much more for Torchwood to do before the writers decide that it’s time for another “upgrade”. Bring back Martha (and Mickey and Lois?), form a real, proper Torchwood team, let them be fantastic, and then leave the rest of their lives to the imagination. But for goodness sake, don’t lose the integrity of the show by turning it American again! Miracle Day made no sense plot-wise, was completely over-sexualized, and had bland, obnoxious characters that we were supposed to sympathize with. In other words–average American television. The only way I can see forward is by forgetting that Miracle Day ever happened, which, as it is a science fiction show, should not be too difficult.

  11. Tom Versey
    June 11th, 2012 at 9.30am | #11

    I did enjoy Miracle Day at the start of the Series, but in around Ep 3 or 4, the show went totally of track. CoE was more original! I agree with many people, MD was a disaster! The end of the series was ridiculous and the americans just shouldn’t have been involved in the series, It should of been Cardiff or UK based!
    IF a Series 5 is possible, don’t go abroad, stick to the UK! Bring back Martha Jones and Mickey, and have a fresh new team! Miracle Day I think is rated 3/10 in my case, wheras Series 3 is 7/10, and Series 1 and 2 are 10/10! If they can’t think of any genius way for a Series of Torchwood, I suggest they end it, Series 4 has been proven by many whovians as the worst.

  12. JC
    June 11th, 2012 at 3.35pm | #12

    I liked Series 1 and 2 of Torchwood. Series 3, or Children of Earth, was different but had some moments that were great and also completely destructive to the whole Torchwood show, IE: the Hub being destroyed and although it didn’t really bother me, Ianto dying.

    Added to that, the sacrifice of Jack’s Grandson was really quite something.

    Miracle Day was not far short of a disaster for me, personally. I was bored all the way through, I felt uncomfortable at certain points and got attacked as homophobic because of it (which is completely not true) and the ending was just rediculous.

    Jack’s immortality has nothing to do with his blood. I seriously doubt that something as powerful as the Bad Wolf Entity would just add something to Jack’s blood to make him immortal. There’s something a whole lot more to him than just funny blood.

    The Tardis ran to the end of the universe to get away from him and the Doctor had trouble even looking at him and from Miracle Day, we’re being told that it’s in his blood or that in some way, Jack is capable of producing blood that has immortality properties?

    No, just wrong. Added to that, they wrongly assumed that people would love the Series and therefore dug them into a massive hole from which they can never climb out from, by suggesting at the end that there was a Plan B and my reaction was “Oh please, don’t make me go through another Miracle Day”.

    Because of that Plan B, how can Torchwood ever go back to its roots?……..Series 5 would have to be Miracle Day 2 and I don’t even want to think about that.

    So, in my opinion, where should Torchwood go next?………As sad as it is to say, I don’t think they should go anywhere. Miracle Day was that bad that I actually believe they should just stop now, I don’t want to even know what Plan B was because Plan A was so incredibly boring and strung out.

    For me, Torchwood is Cardiff, the Hub and the SUV. Once they were gone in Children of Earth, so was Torchwood.

  13. Grace
    June 20th, 2012 at 12.00pm | #13

    Don’t end Torchwood on Miracle Day please!

    Instead, give the team a purpose. The original reason Torchwood existed according to Queen Victoria was for the good of the British Empire! I see nothing wrong with that! And there is still plenty for them to do! Isn’t there still a rift in Cardiff to get back to?

    Its simple to add a few new cast members and get the ball rolling again, just for goodness sake, leave the cheesy MD disaster crap out of it! That story line was so convoluted and so forced that if you pretended it never happened I don’t think anyone would be sorry!

    For goodness sake Jack was a Time Agent! Use the stupid bracelet and travel back in time a year or so! Maybe he’s even traveled the galaxy the last five years, or blew up the time agency! Anything! Just let Torchwood be what it could be and give the fans what they deserve!

  14. Joff of Oz
    June 30th, 2012 at 4.50am | #14

    I thought the idea of TW MD was great and after such a long break It was a long time in the making……although some plot points(as usual)are sometimes nerve racking to figure out but of course I have no idea of the creator/directors Take on the final cut before airing. Hopefully Russell will pull together another season it deserves another couple of seasons I reckon!!Did I like the Americanization of TW MD? Ummmmmm…. yes and no!! But It was a good move by Russell Davis to get it into the main stream as I assume the BBC where not going to follow on with the Series? If I had to say it, Bring it back with a Home base in Wales again and have the American Characters that survived be a part in that, what the heck Get Martha and Micky back too. I thought they would have fitted in well when they were in it in Season 2. Not sure why they killed Ianto, Owen, and Tosh I would not have killed them off, but then we are just an audience and have no real power or do we, shows have been saved before from Fandom Madness……. Come on Russell.. realizing you have a personal life too but breath new life into Torchwood and give us another spin around the block???

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