Rate & Discuss: Extremis

May 20th, 2017
Warning! This article and its comments may contain spoilers...


In the Haereticum – the Vatican’s secret library of blasphemy – there is an ancient book known only as The Veritas. Throughout history, anyone who has ever read it has immediately taken their own life. Now a new translation is online, and the danger is spreading. The Vatican appeals to the Doctor. Will he read The Veritas? But can even the Doctor survive the ultimate truth?

Series 10 marked its epic halfway point tonight (time flies when you’re having this much fun!) and things went from bad to worse for our heroes as they faced the mystery of the Veritas. They say you should never judge a book by its cover…

…but if you were to sit down and give this one a read, the consequences would be pretty dire indeed. It didn’t take the Doctor & Co very long to figure that one out, of course, but that was just the tip of the iceberg when they realised that nothing was as it seemed within the confines of a forbidden library hidden deep beneath the Vatican. Confused? You will be.

Amidst all the Monks and mayhem, Missy was also back as the Doctor’s oath was finally explained, but was her return – and the subsequent culmination of the Vault mystery – worth the wait? And what did you think of the rest of Extremis? The series has definitely been stirred into an interesting new direction, but is it the direction you were hoping for? Lets us know by rating and discussing the latest episode in the comments section below…

You can read what WhovianNet thought of tonight’s episode in our advanced preview here.

NOTE: This discussion will NOT be spoiler monitored so please do not read the comments section if you haven’t seen Extremis. You have been warned!

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8 comments on this article
  1. Kane
    May 20th, 2017 at 11.10pm | #1

    This episode, is everything i love about Doctor Who!
    Where else in the universe can you get a 50 minute show that has aliens building a virtual reality world so that they can do a test-run before actually trying to take over the real world?

    Bill was awesome, she’s really brought Doctor Who back to life! Peter Capaldi was brilliant, and Matt Lucas was also dare i say to the critics, pretty awesome too! (Anybody else think theres much more to him? Just a feeling I have) Nice to see Missy back, will be interesting to see how she interacts with Bill, also whats the whole Missy is a Cyberman all about??

    I know lots of people are tired of Moffats writing etc, i however, love it! I love watching and thinking somethings going on, and then BAM! everything’s not as it seems!

    Fantastic ep, 9/10

  2. John Hammond
    May 21st, 2017 at 6.35pm | #2

    Extremis was another, brilliant and solid episode of Doctor Who. It was tense, at times funny and a little bit crazy. It had everything, great story, top writing and fine performances from all involved. Can’t wait for Part 2 next week….n

  3. Steve
    May 21st, 2017 at 7.32pm | #3

    Have to say, this season is shaping up well. I am getting so bored of Moffat’s obsession with River Song though.
    Again, there are stubble references to the Cybermen in this episode as well! No one notice? I am a little disappointed that it is only Missy in the vault! So how old is the Doctor now Moffatt? 3000! Did he really age 2000 years under your reign!

  4. JC
    May 21st, 2017 at 9.23pm | #4

    I have to be honest and say that I wasn’t greatly impressed by Extremis. It felt very much like what it was, the first episode of a multi-episode run. It was a slow builder, flicking back and forth in time, with nothing much happening. It was all dedicated to the revelation that everyone and everything we’d seen in the episode being a simulation.

    Still, it was interesting to see more of the dark side of Nardole and also to discover more about how he came to travel with The Doctor and take on the role he has. I couldn’t help feeling that the revelation that it was only Missy in the vault was quite an anti-climax. It was built up to be this big mystery, but it’s safe to say that she was the first guess for most of us from the first episode, before we moved on to more interesting theories that ultimately came to nothing.

    I don’t know. It’s fair enough that other fans seemed to love it, but it didn’t do anything for me, I’m afraid. Still, it is Part One of a multi-episode arc, so I remain hopeful that it’ll contribute more successfully to the overall story.

  5. JoshRrr
    May 21st, 2017 at 9.25pm | #5

    Was really looking forwards to this episode and it did not disappoint, very solid and an intriguing opening act to what is shaping up as a great 3 Part saga! It certainly wasn’t predictable! For most of it I was feeling confused until that wonderful moment where it all made sense and I was muttering to myself “ooh that’s clever!”

    I’ve grown to enjoy Bill and Nardole which is funny considering I used to despise him but I think the writers figured out how to make him an actually funny character and Matt Lucas is a very fine comedy actor as we know from Little Britain!

    The reveal of who’s in the vault honestly feels a bit anti-climatic since I thought the reveal would be more epic and be the Valeyard or someone totally unexpected but I liked the explanation all the seem, feels poetic having the Doctor protect the body of his greatest enemy (or friend depending on how you look at it) for 1000 years, although now that i’m thinking of it, a character in Doctor Who protecting someone inside a big box for 1000 years…Did Moffat reuse Rory and the Pandorica? xD

    The episode had a great tone of suspense and unease thanks to the Doctor being blind, the creepy Monk like aliens and the threat of the Veritas. A really good episode I enjoyed immensely i’m still surprised about how much I’ve been enjoying this season! And since we’re halfway through it I can say this is the 12th Doctor’s best season, am glad Moffat and Capaldi are giving this their all and making sure they leave on a high note!

  6. Barbara Morgan
    May 22nd, 2017 at 6.04pm | #6

    I always enjoy DW when it bends reality and forces it’s fans to think. This episode was no exception. I thought it was brilliant that the Doctor would call the Doctor for help (via email) because who else would a scary-handsome genius from space call? The monks were wraith-like and creepy. And the humor was spot on. I especially enjoyed the Pope crashing Bill & Penny’s date. Guilt takes a whole other level when the Pope bursts out of your date’s bedroom and Catholic Cardinals are surrounding your potential love interest’s bed. I can’t wait to see how the Monk’s invasion turns out.

  7. Esme
    May 31st, 2017 at 11.08pm | #7

    I have a new favorite now!! This was everything you have come to love about this show!!!!! The Doctor e-mailing the Doctor for help? Well like Bill said he is the help line. I would love to see more Bill and Nardole as they where awesome together. I mean the Pope cant crash all her outings… can he?

  8. Esme
    May 31st, 2017 at 11.14pm | #8

    @Steve
    I know what you mean, I am getting bored of Moffat too, and I would not mind his obsession with River Song, but would like to see more then just her book all time.

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